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I'd think that this would be easy to test...
Sure, just run CCleaner and then see what you can get back with Recuva
www.forensicfocus.com/...ic/t=10194
www.forensicfocus.com/...ic/t=9821/
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Sure it is
, still it is not aimed at secure erasing a device, it is aimed to erase a filesystem or, more correctly parts of the filesystem (files or free space or even unused/old $MFT entries), just like Recuva is aimed to recover deleted files on a filesystem:
www.piriform.com/docs/...r-settings
In my perverted mind, if all I can find, with *whatever* methods, on *any* sector of the device is 00's then that is "secure erase", and most if not all "secure erase" programs are aimed to the device and not at the filesystem, so I wouldn't know with what to compare, possibly sdelete:
technet.microsoft.com/...97443.aspx
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CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares?
CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares?
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:26 am
hello. I would like to know if for secure erasing purposes, Ccleaner (1 pass overwritting) could be considered "profesionally" safe, compared with other erasing available software?
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williamsonn - Senior Member
Re: CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:28 am
I am speaking of recent versions like v3.23.1823.
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williamsonn - Senior Member
Re: CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:12 am
Do you mean Piriform CCleaner? It's about as "professional" as any housewife's computer tool. No offence to housewives.
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Belkasoft - Senior Member
Re: CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares?
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:36 am
- williamsonnhello. I would like to know if for secure erasing purposes, Ccleaner (1 pass overwritting) could be considered "profesionally" safe, compared with other erasing available software?
I'd think that this would be easy to test...
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keydet89 - Senior Member
Re: CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares?
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:29 am
- keydet89
I'd think that this would be easy to test...
Sure, just run CCleaner and then see what you can get back with Recuva
www.forensicfocus.com/...ic/t=10194
www.forensicfocus.com/...ic/t=9821/
jaclaz
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jaclaz - Senior Member
Re: CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:29 am
To be fair, CCleaner is a very thorough and powerful end-user tool. Dave Cowen used it as an example in his anti-anti-forensics talk -- related to his $Logfile research. It's not just a joke. And, as Harlan points out, it's easy enough to test, which is what Dave did.
A couple of weeks ago, I
suggested that williamsonn should look into it.
Did you?
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Did you?
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TuckerHST - Senior Member
Re: CCLEANER´s erasing accuracy compared to other softwares
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:21 pm
- TuckerHSTTo be fair, CCleaner is a very thorough and powerful end-user tool.
Sure it is
, still it is not aimed at secure erasing a device, it is aimed to erase a filesystem or, more correctly parts of the filesystem (files or free space or even unused/old $MFT entries), just like Recuva is aimed to recover deleted files on a filesystem:www.piriform.com/docs/...r-settings
In my perverted mind, if all I can find, with *whatever* methods, on *any* sector of the device is 00's then that is "secure erase", and most if not all "secure erase" programs are aimed to the device and not at the filesystem, so I wouldn't know with what to compare, possibly sdelete:
technet.microsoft.com/...97443.aspx
jaclaz
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jaclaz - Senior Member