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Digital Contemporaneous Notes

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Digital Contemporaneous Notes

Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:46 am

Firstly let me apologise, I guess you receive requests like this on quite a regular basis.

Im a final year Forensic Computing student looking into the possibility of digitalising the contemporaneous note recording process. My dissertation aims to create a proof of concept that evaluates whether switching from paper pocket note books to a digital tablet version *could in theory* work from both a legal and ease of use perspective.

As part of the research phase I need to consult individuals working in the profession. I have made contact with my local forces HTCU and several individuals working in infosec, but it would be nice to have the opinions of a few others in the profession!

Is there anyone on here who has experience recording contemporaneous notes (either by hand, or using software such as CaseNotes) and doesn't mind answering some of my questions by either a skype conversation, phone call or series of emails. UK would be great, but the practices in other countries would be interesting to know! I'm happy to send an email from either my university or force (im also a Special Constable) email to validate who I am. I understand the concerns some of you may have with giving your contact details to a newly joined member with one post, so hopefully that may relieve several of your concerns.

Your help will honestly be greatly appreciated and would benefit my project hugely.

Adam  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:23 am

Elucidate on what you mean by "contemporaneous notes". Are you saying noting simultaneously occurring events, or noting an event simultaneously?

I used (and still use for certain things) engineering notepads (engineer's moleskine) before taking advantage of digital note taking.  

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Re: Digital Contemporaneous Notes

Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:01 am

Sorry for the confusion. The definition I understand for contemporaneous notes is "notes made at the time or shortly after an event or incident"

The best example is probably Police Officers and their Pocket Note Books. The notes they write in their PNBs are classed as contemporaneous.  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:07 am

It's more of a British thing, you do not really see the same style of note taking in the USA, probably due to the many different levels of law enforcement.

For example in the UK, all police officers and investigators will record notes at the time of, or very close to the time of an incident. They'll be recorded in an official (and in some cases serial numbered) notebook with numbered pages.  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:53 am

From my experience the contemporaneous notes produced are very rarely every used in any legal proceedings - as anything seen as evidential is included within a report for court proceedings.

My notes are often are just used to review particular aspects of an investigation or answer specific questions raised by lawyers.

That been said, an electronic 'pro forma' system with areas for information commonly recorded in most examinations and enquiries could save a bit of time in the long run.  

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Re: Digital Contemporaneous Notes

Post Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:01 pm

- Ali-B
From my experience the contemporaneous notes produced are very rarely every used in any legal proceedings - as anything seen as evidential is included within a report for court proceedings.

My notes are often are just used to review particular aspects of an investigation or answer specific questions raised by lawyers.

That been said, an electronic 'pro forma' system with areas for information commonly recorded in most examinations and enquiries could save a bit of time in the long run.



That was partly my idea. An electronic system with a feature that allows you to create 'templates' that you can use as a basic structure to record sets of information. I feel it could potentially save stacks of time.

I'll take policing as an example again. You could use a 'suspect template' to record an individuals information. Box 1) Name. Box 2) DoB. Box 3) Place of Birth etc. It would just provide some structure that reduces the chance of missed information and errors.

I'm interested to know, have you ever had to refer to your contemporaneous notes whilst giving evidence in court?  

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Re: Digital Contemporaneous Notes

Post Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:26 am

I quite like Microsoft OneNote as a note taking tool. I can have the same document open on several machines at once and I can embed screen captures.

My main reason for note taking is I have crap memory so it's useful to screen grab dialog boxes to remind me of what I ticked or didn't.

I like screen grabbing - it stops typos in coying results etc.

The main disadvantage of OneNote is you cant lock a page against future editting.

Mick  

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