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Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:26 am
Hi,
I am currently a Computer Technician, no certifications in anything particular, I am completely self taught. I am very interested in CF as a career.
1) I don't want to attend a degree factory, is Champlain's Online CF Bachelor course any good is Devry better?
2) In general, how are online degrees looked upon in the CF world?
3) Also I was told not major in something as specialized as CF, rather something more general, and to minor in CF. Any reccomendations?
Thanks for looking at the question, any answer and constructive criticism is greatly appreciated!
Tzvi
I am currently a Computer Technician, no certifications in anything particular, I am completely self taught. I am very interested in CF as a career.
1) I don't want to attend a degree factory, is Champlain's Online CF Bachelor course any good is Devry better?
2) In general, how are online degrees looked upon in the CF world?
3) Also I was told not major in something as specialized as CF, rather something more general, and to minor in CF. Any reccomendations?
Thanks for looking at the question, any answer and constructive criticism is greatly appreciated!
Tzvi
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tes5884 - Newbie
Re: Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:38 am
Hello,
1.) If those are your only two choices, from looking at course content, topics and faculty teaching/developing the courses...I would go for Champlain. Personally, I attended Bloomsburg University, in Bloomsburg PA for their Computer Forensics Bachelor Degree. From the location you gave on the forums, it's only about 3 hours away (depends how fast you drive
). I would suggest considering this at the very least. The classes include file systems, EnCase & FTK, Mobile Devices, and I believe even a Linux forensics course. They also have a lab which gives you access to all hardware/software you need to practice the skills you learned and will use in the real world.
2.) I believe the "Online only" Stigma is a bit outdated. If you feel you would do well in an online environment, I say go for it. Both Online and traditional campuses have ups and downs.
3.) Depends what your overall goal is and I think it might be important for you to think about that right now. Is your overall goal to get a job in Computer Forensics? If so, your actions, education, work expereince, internship experience should lead you to that goal.
Maybe you could do two majors?
I would suggest looking around this forum for resources such as recommended books, websites, free training or free resources dealing with Computer Forensics. If you do choose Computer Forensics, I would suggest taking advantage of all the free resources, buy and read books, take advantage of college resources if you choose to go that route. Maybe attend a conference. Really, just immerse yourself in the field and these forums are a good place to start.
As long as you put the effort in, are patient and keep your overall goal in mind, you will do well.
1.) If those are your only two choices, from looking at course content, topics and faculty teaching/developing the courses...I would go for Champlain. Personally, I attended Bloomsburg University, in Bloomsburg PA for their Computer Forensics Bachelor Degree. From the location you gave on the forums, it's only about 3 hours away (depends how fast you drive
2.) I believe the "Online only" Stigma is a bit outdated. If you feel you would do well in an online environment, I say go for it. Both Online and traditional campuses have ups and downs.
3.) Depends what your overall goal is and I think it might be important for you to think about that right now. Is your overall goal to get a job in Computer Forensics? If so, your actions, education, work expereince, internship experience should lead you to that goal.
Maybe you could do two majors?
I would suggest looking around this forum for resources such as recommended books, websites, free training or free resources dealing with Computer Forensics. If you do choose Computer Forensics, I would suggest taking advantage of all the free resources, buy and read books, take advantage of college resources if you choose to go that route. Maybe attend a conference. Really, just immerse yourself in the field and these forums are a good place to start.
As long as you put the effort in, are patient and keep your overall goal in mind, you will do well.
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Chanko86 - Senior Member
Re: Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:18 pm
If cost is of no issue, then Champlain would win hands down (and really no comparison between DeVry (no offense to DeVry grads)). Do realize, though, that the Champlain program will run you around 80k... search the web for other distance education degrees.
Online / Distance Education Degrees are as recognized as if you attended a B&M (Brick & Mortar) school - the difference not being quality of education, but determination and ability to complete work on your own or with very little interaction between other students.
Before jumping into a degree, you need to check into what the local market requires for you to get into this field: Do you want to be a Law Enforcement Officer for a local, state or federal agency? If not, what is the private sector job market like? Do you need to have a P.I. License? What do you think it'll be by the time you graduate in four years time? Are you willing to relocate to follow that dream?
Perhaps you're better off getting some certifications which you could then perhaps roll into the Bachelors Degree...
There are other threads on this forum that discuss certs and education, I assume you've perused those prior to posting?
Online / Distance Education Degrees are as recognized as if you attended a B&M (Brick & Mortar) school - the difference not being quality of education, but determination and ability to complete work on your own or with very little interaction between other students.
Before jumping into a degree, you need to check into what the local market requires for you to get into this field: Do you want to be a Law Enforcement Officer for a local, state or federal agency? If not, what is the private sector job market like? Do you need to have a P.I. License? What do you think it'll be by the time you graduate in four years time? Are you willing to relocate to follow that dream?
Perhaps you're better off getting some certifications which you could then perhaps roll into the Bachelors Degree...
There are other threads on this forum that discuss certs and education, I assume you've perused those prior to posting?
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ForensicRanger - Senior Member
Re: Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:19 pm
Thanks for the responses,
@ForensicRanger I want to get a degree as well as certifications, the reason being i like having a solid foundation including theory etc.
Also if Champlain is not a option, does anyone have any other recommendations for Online study (I work full time).
Thanks again,
Tzvi
@ForensicRanger I want to get a degree as well as certifications, the reason being i like having a solid foundation including theory etc.
Also if Champlain is not a option, does anyone have any other recommendations for Online study (I work full time).
Thanks again,
Tzvi
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tes5884 - Newbie
Re: Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:39 am
@ForensicRanger, I am not sure where you got the $80k for the champlain online program from, the Champlain undergrad online program is closer to $65k, if you cannot get any credits. If you have prior work experience or another degree you can probably get credit from a course or two.
@Tzvi there are a number of different programs around the place that you could consider (of which Champlain is one). I suggest you have a look at the education listing here: www.forensicfocus.com/...directory, hopefully you will be able to something that suits your needs. If you want more details on Champlain pm me and I will put you in touch with the right people.
@Tzvi there are a number of different programs around the place that you could consider (of which Champlain is one). I suggest you have a look at the education listing here: www.forensicfocus.com/...directory, hopefully you will be able to something that suits your needs. If you want more details on Champlain pm me and I will put you in touch with the right people.
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Mike.Wilkinson - Member
Re: Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:17 pm
I just graduated from Champlain in May so I am biased. Great instructors and great classes. I did all of it entirely online since I live in Illinois.
Having said all of this, I am still looking for my first position in the computer forensics field.
Libby Baugher
Having said all of this, I am still looking for my first position in the computer forensics field.
Libby Baugher
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tibbs66 - Member
Re: Newbie... Champlain or Devry
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:51 pm
Please accept my apologies - it's a mere $65k, not the outrageous $80k I posted. Even using PLAR and CLEP/DSST, it is still a costly programme...
Also, I never critized the programme - I am sure it is great, however the price tag associated to it is steep... particularly when you spend it and don't have a job...
tibbs66: No contacts through the University that could help you land that first job?
Also, I never critized the programme - I am sure it is great, however the price tag associated to it is steep... particularly when you spend it and don't have a job...
tibbs66: No contacts through the University that could help you land that first job?
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ForensicRanger - Senior Member
















