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Monitoring employee cell phones

Discussion of forensic issues related to all types of mobile phones and underlying technologies (GSM, GPRS, UMTS/3G, HSDPA, LTE, Bluetooth etc.)
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4n6art
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Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Jan 25, 17 20:54

Hi all:

Looking for any assistance on this:

- friend owns his own company and supplies and pays for cell phones for certain field employees.
- he would like to monitor sms mms and gps locations at the very least on those phones
- employees will know that the app is on the phone, however, admin should be notified if app is deleted from phone.
- need both iOS and android app

Any other bells and whistles would be a plus.

If anyone knows of a service or app that they have used or installed for a client, would appreciate any help.

Thanks
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jaclaz
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Re: Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Jan 25, 17 23:23

My small advice would be to be very, VERY sure that doing that is actually legal in the specific country, more than just asking "a" lawyer, I would want a written legal opinion on the matter by a lawyer specialized in civil and employment Laws.

It sounds like something that will need - if legal at all - some serious contractual paperwork, with the workers allowing explicitly this kind of control and - very likely - some specific guarantee on the access to and management of the resulting data.

jaclaz
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4n6art
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Re: Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Jan 27, 17 00:47

Good advice Jaclaz and thanks. Yes, he has been made painfully aware to get a couple of written legal opinions on this from his Attorneys along with having proper releases signed etc before I would help him do any of this.

Was just trying to see if anyone knew of any software that would do that.

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UnallocatedClusters
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Re: Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Feb 04, 17 08:35

A small and free technique: Insist and enforce all employees using company controlled Apple IDs.

If employees use their personal Apple IDs, then when employees leave the company, they will be able to easily steal trade secrets by simply buying a new iPhone, logging into their Apple ID and downloading their iCloud backup (containing all of the previous employer's data) to their new iPhones.

Also, malicious minded ex-employees could remotely wipe their former employer's iPhones using their AppleID.

If one forces employees to use company controlled Apple IDs (such as company email address), then one could use Elcomsoft's Phone Breaker, for example, to download mobile backups from the iCloud from any employee's iPhone and analyze using one's preferred analysis tool. Employee will not know Elcomsoft PB has been employed.  
 
  

jaclaz
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Re: Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Feb 04, 17 17:48

In other words, you want a kid tracking software Shocked .
Examples:
kidtrackmobile.com/
www.gpsphonetracker.or...onitoring/
logger.mobi/
www.mobistealth.com/ce...ne-tracker
www.toptenreviews.com/...-software/

jaclaz
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passcodeunlock
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Re: Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Feb 04, 17 20:25

@jaclaz: kid tracking softwares - ingenious idea Smile

I still doubt using any of those at company level would be all legal and ethical.
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jaclaz
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Re: Monitoring employee cell phones

Post Posted: Feb 04, 17 22:08

- passcodeunlock


I still doubt using any of those at company level would be all legal and ethical.


Yep, but as said particular countries (and particular states in the case of the US) may actually allow - with a well worded signed binding agreement - such things.

To me - personally - GPS tracking of an employer smartphone is nothing but a modern form of slavery, but if and where it is legal, it's OK.

Overlooking and accessing "at least" SMS's and MMS's (unconditionally) it is instead a form of invasion of privacy that I doubt anyone can - even voluntarily - forfeit in most countries, particularly in the case of BYOD. Question

Just in case:
www.lexology.com/libra...46d717c45d

One thing is GPS tracking a (company) vehicle, and another is to track a device such a smartphone (company issued or personal) that more or less the employee has always with him/her, and yet another is accessing SMS's (or MMS's, or e-mail's or other messaging) unless it is strictly restricted to "work" accounts and times and some serious protection of the data thus gathered is implemented.

More than what the Law says the underlying issue is that the employer trusts not the employee, and no matter if this lack of trust is justified or not, as a general rule you'd better work for someone that trusts you (if you are an employee) and you'd better hire someone that you can trust and then trust him/her (if you are an employer).

jaclaz
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