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I'm not sure what studies you're referring to, but I would expect them to say '11 *random* digits' as well as specify clearly what sample population the observations are valid for. Most are valid only for students at a particular university...
In a file with cracked passwords that I have collected (thus very probably PINs that someone has remembered), I find the majority of PIN entries (i.e. digits only) to be 11 or less, as you state, but I have more than 6000 16-digits PINS, and around 100 24-digit pins. The longest are 255 digit PINs, but as some are all the same digit ('00000...', '1111...' and '5555...') -- I suspect an effect of a max-length of 255 characters in PIN together with auto-repeat keyboard: press key until it beeps (or for x seconds, leading to string truncation), or something like that, but no exceptional memory.
Very many long PINs have an initial sequence of '0000...', followed by a 7-digit (or longer) more random sequence. ('1111...' are also present, but less common.)
So throwing all remaining long PINs found in any of the 'standard' password leaks (such as the rockyou leak files, for example) might be an idea.
Or ... start with 'numbers' from personal relation: social security numbers, say, or phone numbers or dates ... or just possibly credit card numbers. (I would do all 8-digit dates before I did any more random 8-digit sequences, for example, and I might start by looking at 'nearby' years first). And possibly extend with '0000...' .
S7 Edge secure startup
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pcook8198 - Member
S7 Edge secure startup
Samsung S7 Edge Android 7.0
G935FXXS2DRC3
Handset requires PIN on Boot
Any suggestions much appreciated.
Ive tried
1 to 6 Digit pin
4,5,6 and 7 digit pins
Was partially through 8 digits
Very time consuming
Thoughts / ideas much appreciated
G935FXXS2DRC3
Handset requires PIN on Boot
Any suggestions much appreciated.
Ive tried
1 to 6 Digit pin
4,5,6 and 7 digit pins
Was partially through 8 digits
Very time consuming
Thoughts / ideas much appreciated
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shahartal - Member
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the_Grinch - Senior Member
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passcodeunlock - Senior Member
Re: S7 Edge secure startup
What did you use to brute force ?!
7+ PINs are rare, since they are hard to type - while driving for example
Are you sure it is not asking for password instead of PIN ?!
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7+ PINs are rare, since they are hard to type - while driving for example

Are you sure it is not asking for password instead of PIN ?!
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Apple passcode unlock + decrypted filesystem dump, Android user locks unlock + physical dump with decrypted userdata partition. We provide our services world-wide, but we reserve the right for choosing which tasks we take and which we deny!
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pcook8198 - Member
Re: S7 Edge secure startup
CAIS has been used.
I was wondering if anyone had heard of anything else.
I was wondering if anyone had heard of anything else.
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pcook8198 - Member
Re: S7 Edge secure startup
Re the PIN
I totally agree, 7+ digits seems a little to long as studies show 11 digits is roughly the max the human mind is capable of.
Its certainly a PIN as the keyboard is only set to allow Digits , I can not input an Alpha Numeric / Symbol password.
I totally agree, 7+ digits seems a little to long as studies show 11 digits is roughly the max the human mind is capable of.
Its certainly a PIN as the keyboard is only set to allow Digits , I can not input an Alpha Numeric / Symbol password.
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athulin - Senior Member
Re: S7 Edge secure startup
- pcook8198I totally agree, 7+ digits seems a little to long as studies show 11 digits is roughly the max the human mind is capable of.
I'm not sure what studies you're referring to, but I would expect them to say '11 *random* digits' as well as specify clearly what sample population the observations are valid for. Most are valid only for students at a particular university...
In a file with cracked passwords that I have collected (thus very probably PINs that someone has remembered), I find the majority of PIN entries (i.e. digits only) to be 11 or less, as you state, but I have more than 6000 16-digits PINS, and around 100 24-digit pins. The longest are 255 digit PINs, but as some are all the same digit ('00000...', '1111...' and '5555...') -- I suspect an effect of a max-length of 255 characters in PIN together with auto-repeat keyboard: press key until it beeps (or for x seconds, leading to string truncation), or something like that, but no exceptional memory.
Very many long PINs have an initial sequence of '0000...', followed by a 7-digit (or longer) more random sequence. ('1111...' are also present, but less common.)
So throwing all remaining long PINs found in any of the 'standard' password leaks (such as the rockyou leak files, for example) might be an idea.
Or ... start with 'numbers' from personal relation: social security numbers, say, or phone numbers or dates ... or just possibly credit card numbers. (I would do all 8-digit dates before I did any more random 8-digit sequences, for example, and I might start by looking at 'nearby' years first). And possibly extend with '0000...' .