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Final Project Idea

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Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:39 pm

Hello

I will soon be going into my final year at uni and I will doing a forensics project.

I was thinking about writing a program that would be put onto a USB stick and then once connected to a android device it will forensically image the it. Everything will be placed on the USB stick which will be write protected once the data is copied.

Is this a realistic idea or would am I going to be taking on too much?

Thanks  

Kkie21
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Re: Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:34 pm

A few things about your idea,

how would I know it has finished imaging/downloading data successfully?
how can I control what I want? I assume that if I don't have a choice then it just gets everything?
what benefits would this have over other methods? why would you use this method over a laptop and usb cable? or even portable solutions like the ufed touch?


whether this is a good or bad idea, have you thought about such questions?  

TofuBoy
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Re: Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:15 am

- Kkie21
Is this a realistic idea or would am I going to be taking on too much?


What amount of work is this project expected to tale? I assume you have a rough idea?

What kind of result should the project deliverables live up to? That is, I assume it's not just 'write a program', but also some kind of project documentation, and perhaps additional stuff. How much time will be needed for that?

What amount of work remains? Does the equation balance?

Do you have any project planning skills or experience, or are you likely to mis-estimate the work required?

If you cannot estimate the time required for your proposed project, you are very likely to be trying to bite off more than you can chew.  

athulin
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Re: Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:03 am

Thanks for the replies.

I was lucky enough to go to a forensics constabulary and was shown how mobile phones were handled when analyzing it. A very expensive box that was used to stop any signal to the phone. My thinking behind this project was a way around using live evidence.

There would be no way of knowing if it would be finished, giving enough time to be sure would be the only way around that. I was thinking that it would be quick and efficient due to it being as simple as inserting the USB into the device. I was also think about making an EnScript to allow it to be read by encase.

I feel I have good project management skills and could manage the project to fit the time scale that I have Which would be around 13 weeks. There would be a lot of research and paperwork to go with the project but I do feel I wold be able to handle the workload before the deadline. I do have good programming skills and experience with with Java, Python and C.

This is purely just an idea which I thought of and just started doing some research into so please forgive me if it all sounds a bit unrealistic.

Thanks  

Kkie21
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Re: Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:35 am

I have to ask how (or rather what) is booting the device in this scenario?
Or if you prefer how is the program on the USB started and in which environment will it run?

Is the USB thingy the boot media?
And how do you make the device boot from it?

Or it is the "normal" device OS (Android in this case) the booted OS?

If this is the case the program would be more than anything else a "dd-to-self-storage" kind of tool and it will need to have some particular capabilities to be allowed to run in the Android OS, unless i am missing something. Confused

jaclaz
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Re: Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:07 am

Some things occur to me while reading your description.

I was thinking about writing a program that would be put onto a USB stick and then once connected to a android device it will forensically image the it.

My assumption is that you are dicussing plugging the USB stick into the device directly? If so, there are two ways you can execute this:

1 - get the device to run your code from the USB stick

2 - get the USB stick to connect and download data from the device

Option 1 is difficult to the point of impossible, as I understand it. iDevices are pretty much out the window immediately as they don't do added external storage AFAIK, and Android won't work without some serious shenanigans (like allowing apps to sideload).

Option 2 is interesting, I guess, but it requires the USB stick to have it's own OS and independent power source. But if your USB stick is a mini computer, then what is the advantage of using it over an actual computer? I mean, you gain huge advantages (a screen!) and lose the huge disadvantages (lack of a screen!).
The other thing to bear in mind with option 2 is that you are also going to have to write device drivers for a huge number of phones and models for it to be of any use.


Sorry, this all seems a bit Negative Nancy, and well done for thinking outside the box (heh), but I think this is not really something achievable for a Final Year Project.  

Chris_Ed
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Re: Final Project Idea

Post Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:07 am

.. but by all means prove me wrong and make billions of dollars. Smile  

Chris_Ed
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