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hcso1510
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I was just looking at Parabens Certified Mobile Examiner (PCME). I thought it looked pretty good. They touch on BitPIM and Paraben products, but it requires you to take three classes and some tests. Oh yeah, some $ too.

Can anyone suggest some other good all around Mobile Forensic Certification classes or training they attended. I was thinking about putting in a request through our local ICAC.

Thanks!

 
Posted : 29/11/2010 8:22 am
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hcso1510 this is a product training certificate to say you are competent to run the tool but you will still have to think about product training certifcates for any other tool you use. A Paraben Certificate doesn't cover you for XRY, Oxygen, Cellebrite etc or any of the other SIM/USIM tools for that matter.

Also when preparing your wish list you may want to think about training certificates for other directly related matters

- mobile phone data etc
- interpretation of the data
- forensic analysis
- expert opinion

I am suggesting the above to you because as your US professional colleagues quite rightly point out on this forum harvesting partial information on a forum is not good practice, and even more so when the information is being used in evidence.

 
Posted : 29/11/2010 1:59 pm
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Understood. Just as paper will never refuse to take ink there is no truth filter when posting online.

I did recently attend a cell phone tech and forensic data recovery class. I paid the additional money, took the test and got certified. In doing so it only really opened my eyes to the wealth of information that I don't know. That being said I'm just looking for some good well rounded schools to attend.

Cheers

 
Posted : 30/11/2010 5:12 am
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I just completed the MFCE certification a few months back, it was very challenging and tests a wide varity of your cell phone forensic skills, both physical and logical. I would compare it to the CFCE for computer forensics.

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Posted : 01/12/2010 9:06 am
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I just completed the MFCE certification a few months back, it was very challenging and tests a wide varity of your cell phone forensic skills, both physical and logical. I would compare it to the CFCE for computer forensics.

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Posted : 01/12/2010 9:06 am
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While I don't know the inner workings of a test for the MFCE, I do know that this part of their process

"At the completion of the testing phase, the student MUST receive peer, or supervisory review of at least four (4) actual mobile device examinations at the company/agency that they are employed by. If someone is not available or qualified at the company/agency, Mobile Forensics, Inc. will conduct the review.
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Would not go over too well under questioning from any good Attorney. It's very amateurish to put anything like MUST (amateurish meaning the caps part) in your site, as well as having someone where you work look over 4 examinations and if they can't then MFCE will look at them for you.

You also do realize that this certification is from a person, not an organization. There is nothing about the people behind their cert either.

I just completed the MFCE certification a few months back, it was very challenging and tests a wide varity of your cell phone forensic skills, both physical and logical. I would compare it to the CFCE for computer forensics.

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Posted : 06/12/2010 4:15 am
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Wow.. let me just get my little friend here.. jekyll junior to certify me.

More seriously, SANS now have a mobile forensic course

http//computer-forensics.sans.org/course/description/mobile-device-forensics-1297

What I really like about the SANS courses is that they are not vendor based and show you some great techniques using open source or free tools which arm you with some great alternatives to the 'push button' phone forensic tools. Smart phones are becoming more powerful and running more complex apps. Push button is not the fututre of forensic analysis in this space and developing a good understanding of using other tools to conduct more hands on examinations is going to be really beneficial in the long term.

 
Posted : 08/12/2010 6:26 am
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In most all crimes where an arrest is made an electronic device is logged into evidence. That doesn't mean that item is imaged or looked at, but it has the potential to be. Push button forensics as you call it has nothing wrong with it as long as the person pushing the button knows what goes on in the black box.

Anything much more complicated than that would bog down places even more than they are already. Plus, a lot of open source items are not "non techie" friendly in the data it spits out or the form which it does so. I know that many OS's have gone to .csv which helps a lot.

 
Posted : 08/12/2010 7:48 am
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Agreed all round. I wasn't knocking these tools, they have a very important purpose and in a high throughput environment like LE they really come into their own. I use XRY myself and will probably pick up most of the other tools as I have a need, but you've probably noticed how fast this field and devices are changing.

With the rise of Android, IOS, Win Phone 7 and all the artefacts from the apps there are huge cache's of untapped evidence there. I think a good all round course understanding the fundamentals of these platforms and the open source alternatives would be at the top of the list for training.

If I was paying big $ for training, I'd rather spend it first on the stuff that really benefits having an expert teach you rather than how to push a button. Learning the tools is important, but nothing beats fundamental understanding and being armed with alternatives to validate tools, find new evidence or work around problems.

 
Posted : 08/12/2010 9:28 am
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100% agree IF I'm doing push button forensics I want to know all the processes that run when I push that button and what is happening internally.

The training, I want to know the how's and why's of what's going on from someone who has been in the trenches. If you have a firm grasp on the ground, the rest of the foundation will be much easier to learn.

Agreed all round. I wasn't knocking these tools, they have a very important purpose and in a high throughput environment like LE they really come into their own. I use XRY myself and will probably pick up most of the other tools as I have a need, but you've probably noticed how fast this field and devices are changing.

With the rise of Android, IOS, Win Phone 7 and all the artefacts from the apps there are huge cache's of untapped evidence there. I think a good all round course understanding the fundamentals of these platforms and the open source alternatives would be at the top of the list for training.

If I was paying big $ for training, I'd rather spend it first on the stuff that really benefits having an expert teach you rather than how to push a button. Learning the tools is important, but nothing beats fundamental understanding and being armed with alternatives to validate tools, find new evidence or work around problems.

 
Posted : 08/12/2010 11:21 pm
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