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veritas_libertas
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Yea, I would still vote for finding someone with a copy of FTK.

Another option would be going for A+ (Harder than ACE, but is a good foundational certification), or CCE (Definitely harder than A+ or ACE, but shows you can handle a case from end to end, plus it doesn't require any specific tool).

Beyond those 3, I can't give much more advice, as those are the only 3 I have, until I get EnCE (which I am studying for now).

(Wow, I used alot of parenthesis in this post)

I have the A+. I'm actually a full time IT Professional. I have plans to take the CCE boot-camp at a near by university once I'm finished with this Bachelor degree. Just a matter of prioritizing where the cash heads right now wink

Thanks for all the suggestions/advice. You've given a friendly welcome to the forum.


   
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If I remember correctly, only a couple of questions required you to use functions of the full version of FTK, so it would be possible - you just won't get 100% )


   
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I have plans to take the CCE boot-camp at a near by university once I'm finished with this Bachelor degree.

It depends on what your level of expertese/Bachelor major is. I have an Associates, and passed the CCE with very little problem (I bombed the last one because I grew impatient as the finish line was in sight). So, you may be able to save money by skipping the boot camp. They have pretest that I recommend you take to help know if you are ready. Though, they do require alot of documentation of qualification prior to taking the test. You'd have to list your classes, cases worked, CF employments, etc. Being a student in a CF program isn't a guaranteed 'in', though as I recall the boot camp is (at 3 grand, it dang well should be).

If I remember correctly, only a couple of questions required you to use functions of the full version of FTK, so it would be possible - you just won't get 100%

Yes, but a couple questions can be the difference between pass or fail. I always advocate over-preparing. Well, more exactly, I don't prepare for the certification, I prepare for the job. I want to know everything there is so that I can do anything asked of me by my boss.


   
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I have plans to take the CCE boot-camp at a near by university once I'm finished with this Bachelor degree.

It depends on what your level of expertese/Bachelor major is. I have an Associates, and passed the CCE with very little problem (I bombed the last one because I grew impatient as the finish line was in sight). So, you may be able to save money by skipping the boot camp. They have pretest that I recommend you take to help know if you are ready. Though, they do require alot of documentation of qualification prior to taking the test. You'd have to list your classes, cases worked, CF employments, etc. Being a student in a CF program isn't a guaranteed 'in', though as I recall the boot camp is (at 3 grand, it dang well should be).

If I remember correctly, only a couple of questions required you to use functions of the full version of FTK, so it would be possible - you just won't get 100%

Yes, but a couple questions can be the difference between pass or fail. I always advocate over-preparing. Well, more exactly, I don't prepare for the certification, I prepare for the job. I want to know everything there is so that I can do anything asked of me by my boss.

I've e-mailed back and forth with them and a Bachelor degree in IT is not going to cut it. I'm too far a long in my program to look for a different degree. I didn't even get interested in Digital Forensics until this year when I started reading Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics and Brian Carrier's File System Forensic Analysis. After that I was hooked and realized it was what I wanted to do. I also want to do the bootcamp so I can get some hands on experience and learn from someone who knows what he/she is doing. Unfortunately none of the universities or colleges in my area teach digital forensics.


   
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I realize that you are hooked and this is something that you want to do, but have you researched how saturated the market is with fresh out of school CF examiners?

I have plans to take the CCE boot-camp at a near by university once I'm finished with this Bachelor degree.

It depends on what your level of expertese/Bachelor major is. I have an Associates, and passed the CCE with very little problem (I bombed the last one because I grew impatient as the finish line was in sight). So, you may be able to save money by skipping the boot camp. They have pretest that I recommend you take to help know if you are ready. Though, they do require alot of documentation of qualification prior to taking the test. You'd have to list your classes, cases worked, CF employments, etc. Being a student in a CF program isn't a guaranteed 'in', though as I recall the boot camp is (at 3 grand, it dang well should be).

If I remember correctly, only a couple of questions required you to use functions of the full version of FTK, so it would be possible - you just won't get 100%

Yes, but a couple questions can be the difference between pass or fail. I always advocate over-preparing. Well, more exactly, I don't prepare for the certification, I prepare for the job. I want to know everything there is so that I can do anything asked of me by my boss.

I've e-mailed back and forth with them and a Bachelor degree in IT is not going to cut it. I'm too far a long in my program to look for a different degree. I didn't even get interested in Digital Forensics until this year when I started reading Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics and Brian Carrier's File System Forensic Analysis. After that I was hooked and realized it was what I wanted to do. I also want to do the bootcamp so I can get some hands on experience and learn from someone who knows what he/she is doing. Unfortunately none of the universities or colleges in my area teach digital forensics.


   
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I realize that you are hooked and this is something that you want to do, but have you researched how saturated the market is with fresh out of school CF examiners?

I have plans to take the CCE boot-camp at a near by university once I'm finished with this Bachelor degree.

It depends on what your level of expertese/Bachelor major is. I have an Associates, and passed the CCE with very little problem (I bombed the last one because I grew impatient as the finish line was in sight). So, you may be able to save money by skipping the boot camp. They have pretest that I recommend you take to help know if you are ready. Though, they do require alot of documentation of qualification prior to taking the test. You'd have to list your classes, cases worked, CF employments, etc. Being a student in a CF program isn't a guaranteed 'in', though as I recall the boot camp is (at 3 grand, it dang well should be).

If I remember correctly, only a couple of questions required you to use functions of the full version of FTK, so it would be possible - you just won't get 100%

Yes, but a couple questions can be the difference between pass or fail. I always advocate over-preparing. Well, more exactly, I don't prepare for the certification, I prepare for the job. I want to know everything there is so that I can do anything asked of me by my boss.

I've e-mailed back and forth with them and a Bachelor degree in IT is not going to cut it. I'm too far a long in my program to look for a different degree. I didn't even get interested in Digital Forensics until this year when I started reading Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics and Brian Carrier's File System Forensic Analysis. After that I was hooked and realized it was what I wanted to do. I also want to do the bootcamp so I can get some hands on experience and learn from someone who knows what he/she is doing. Unfortunately none of the universities or colleges in my area teach digital forensics.

Yes. I have a steady IT career already, so it's not like I'm a fresh out of college 22-24 year-old without a job. It's a goal I'm aiming for, not magically expecting to get after I achieve a certification.


   
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I realize that you are hooked and this is something that you want to do, but have you researched how saturated the market is with fresh out of school CF examiners?

Yea, but based on his schooling and employment background, he isn't going to be looking for a CF job anytime soon. And his desire to get certifications will definitely be a huge bonus when he does. I have an associates, and 3 certifications, and I found a job without looking TOO hard. One place I interviewed with actually said they were lowering their requirements because they just couldn't find anyone, and their requirements were fairly par for the employment ads out there.

Besides, I think the whole "I am an IT guy, with a little CF training" can be a huge boon. Some companies don't need or want a whole CF department. He can find work quite nicely in a small company that may only have incidents occasionally.


   
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I realize that you are hooked and this is something that you want to do, but have you researched how saturated the market is with fresh out of school CF examiners?

Yea, but based on his schooling and employment background, he isn't going to be looking for a CF job anytime soon. And his desire to get certifications will definitely be a huge bonus when he does. I have an associates, and 3 certifications, and I found a job without looking TOO hard. One place I interviewed with actually said they were lowering their requirements because they just couldn't find anyone, and their requirements were fairly par for the employment ads out there.

Besides, I think the whole "I am an IT guy, with a little CF training" can be a huge boon. Some companies don't need or want a whole CF department. He can find work quite nicely in a small company that may only have incidents occasionally.

I have a 1 1/2 years left and than I plan to get start on the CCE as well work on a master degree. Right now I'm going to focus on reading through Harlan's encyclopedia of forensic books… lol


   
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Right now I'm going to focus on reading through Harlan's encyclopedia of forensic books… lol

My theory is that since he comes out with new books so fast, there is no such person as Harlan Carvey. I think he's a pseudonym for an army of writers that Syngress keeps locked up in some unmarked bunker, feeding them only Army Rations and allowing them only 10 minute breaks after they finish each book. And in the next room, a million monkeys pound away on a million keyboards creating a few precious perl scripts for inclusion in the above mentioned books…


   
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I have a 1 1/2 years left and than I plan to get start on the CCE as well work on a master degree. Right now I'm going to focus on reading through Harlan's encyclopedia of forensic books… lol

Masters? What for? You'll be over qualified without any experience. A Masters will compliment your skillset, but I would not jump into a Masters without relevant experience. You will be much better served attaining certifications, not to mention hands on experience.


   
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