I would be Incredibly shocked, Incredibly shocked, if any university in the World would give 42 credit hours for an MCSE boot camp.
This kind of sounds like what the recruiters at Devry, ITT, etc. say when they tell you that you will get a high paying job straight out of their program, and you see posts on here quite frequently where students have done that and are out of luck.
Remember, lots of people graduating with forensics degrees now, jobs.. not so much.
So if you are putting your degree up against another college degree and there is no test of your skills required, then you can see where the more known school would win out.
@ba2llb I believe that those are the same, I attended the Vatterott College of Saint Joseph, MO.
I am a little concerned with the transfers, I haven't attended college since 2001 and worry about the statute of limitations on those credits. I also had a few credit hours from a 4 year state college as well, but again quite some time ago.
I had also attended a 2 week MCSE boot camp that the instructor said it carried 42 credit hours that could be transferred to most technical schools. I definitely have a lot of "investigating" to do but getting really excited about this.
Thank you all for the assistance and wisdom.
I'm also looking into getting a computer forensic degree. I'm from northern NJ and the closest school is DeVry, 15 minutes away. Could someone explain why getting a DeVry diploma/certificate is a bad choice? I hear about diploma mills, I'm not sure if DeVry is one of those mills. My second choice is John Jay College of Criminal Justice, which is very expensive and time consuming to get to. Thanks for any answers.
I'm also looking into getting a computer forensic degree. I'm from northern NJ and the closest school is DeVry, 15 minutes away. Could someone explain why getting a DeVry diploma/certificate is a bad choice? I hear about diploma mills, I'm not sure if DeVry is one of those mills. My second choice is John Jay College of Criminal Justice, which is very expensive and time consuming to get to. Thanks for any answers.
I dont think anyone is saying they are bad or good however I agree with what @forensicakb said
Remember, lots of people graduating with forensics degrees now, jobs.. not so much.
It is hard for those who have BSc in Forensics to get a job now days let alone if you were to do some "diploma/certificate" and you couldnt transfere the credits to anywhere else.
If it is advice you seek, then this is what people think. But at the end of the day only you can make that choise for yourself.
My situation is different. I already have the Job in law enforcement. I need the credentials, to learn more and to show in court if I get called up to testify. DeVry is 15 minutes from my house and the tuition would be instate, versus John Jay College of Criminal Justice, in Manhattan and $575.00 per credit hour for out of state students. I'm trying to figure out what to go for, if DeVry is just a diploma mill, then I would avoid it, but if the degree is respected in the Computer Forensic field then it's a good enough option for now and then get law enforcement training certificates dealing with computer forensics to add to my credentials. Any toughs or ideas are welcomed.
Greetings,
I don't think DeVry will make or break you in court. Doing research and publishing articles or papers would probably be as valuable, and you could do that on your own time and at minimal cost.
Investing in the GFCA or the CCE certifications would probably be a better use of your time and money than DeVry, too.
-David
Tero, if you're a LEO, get a CFCE. It should work out cheaper than CCE with the cost of their bootcamp, but it's still limited to LEOs. $2k for the training (2 week course in Orlando in April) and certification is included in the price.
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In the interests of full disclosure, I hold a subcommittee chair position with IACIS.
A little more background on me, I'm "good" with computer hardware and software (self thought), and i pick up on how things work. Do the courses for CFCE, GFCA or the CCE certifications start at a beginners level or you have to be a proficient in computer science?
Just to understand about DeVry, it seems like is useful for entry level learning about computer forensics, but is not top grade material, is this assumption right?
I've had CFCE students with little computer experience when they started, but they tend to struggle. Having an understanding of basic hardware and operating systems helps considerably. Even people with years of experience will learn a thing or two from the course and certification process. The course material goes from tag'n'bag through to full examinations with multiple file systems and operating systems. If you want to PM me your contact details, I'll make an introduction to a LEO contact in Hudson County.