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fatrabbit
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Are there any UK forum members out there currently undertaking a degree who wouldn't mind sharing their opinions/views about their course?

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Posted : 02/03/2005 6:39 pm
Andy
 Andy
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Do you mean specifically Forensic Computing Degree courses or Computing courses in general?

Are you thinking of applying for one?

If you read some of the other posts on the subject, there are recommendations and suggestions all over this forum.

Andy

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Posted : 02/03/2005 6:54 pm
imrankhan
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hi fatrabbit

about the degrees in forensic computing in the UK. there are only 3 universities in the uk that do this course, you got Staffordshire university, Cranfield University and Bradford University. I started a MSc in Stffordshire university but was not happy with the course content, this was because in the first semester there was only 1 forensic related module called forensic computing concepts, the other three modules were normal computing modules. because of this i cahnged to doing a MRes. the MRes is Master Research which gives you more flexability with what you do, with this you are choose your own topic to do research on and the university provides you with the resourses required.

Good thing about the MRes is that after completing it you can go onto a PhD and complete it within 2 years. unlike the 3 years you have to spend on a PhD after a MSc.

With Bradford university the course content is really good, but the only let down is that this is the first year the university is teaching the course. The best place to do the course is at Cranfield University which is a caddett college, it had the best course, but the only thing that is of concern is the fees. it cost somethis like £15,000, and the course is taught over i think 3 years on a part time basis.

Hope all this makes sence and answers your question.

Imran

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Posted : 18/04/2005 11:32 am
neddy
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I did a combined hon B.Sc. course in forensic science and computing at the South Bank Univerity of London. I dont think they still run the course but it did the trick and I found work within a year of graduating in 2003. The course didnt involve computer forensics in any way but the skills learned in both units was a very good foundation on which to build.

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Posted : 18/04/2005 12:36 pm
laing_c
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Northumbria University has just validated a 4yr BSc (Hons) Computer Forensics course.

TEL: 0191 227 4453; [email protected]

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Posted : 01/07/2005 3:27 pm
fatrabbit
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The problem I'm having isn't necessarily finding a university that runs a CF type course, rather finding one that has a credible and worthwhile syllabus.

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Posted : 03/07/2005 3:46 pm
KittyDoll
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UK Top Ranking Universities in the field of Computer Science 2005, offering undergraduate (BSc) courses in Computer Forensics
http//education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2005/

41. - Kingston University BSc(Hons) Cyber Security & Computer Forensics Joint Honours
http//www.kingston.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/cyber_security_computer_forensics.html

63. - University of the West of England BSc(Hons) Forensic Computing
http//info.uwe.ac.uk/courses/viewCourse.asp?URN=12699&stream=cems

73. - University of Glamorgan BSc(Hons) Forensic Computing
http//www.glam.ac.uk/coursedetails/685/51

75. - London South Bank University BSc(Hons) Forensic Science
http//www.lsbu.ac.uk/sas/forensic.html

78. - Stafford University Forensic Computing BSc/BSc(Hons)
http//www.staffs.ac.uk/courses/undergrad/computingandit/tcm11017064.php

83. - Northumbria University Computer Forensics Bsc(Hon)
http//online.northumbria.ac.uk/prospectus/coursedetail.asp?CourseID=839

94. - University of Huddersfield Secure and Forensic Computing BSc(Hons)
http//www.hud.ac.uk/courses/undergrad/ipp_pages00000535.htm

95. - De Montfort University BSc(Hons) Forensic Computing
http//www.dmu.ac.uk/faculties/cse/courses/computing/forensic_computing.jsp

This list is WIP & does not include Universities offering specific Postgraduate courses in computer forensics.

Anyone offering any first hand comments of the above courses? or have any uni's to add?

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Posted : 03/10/2005 6:05 pm
fatrabbit
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The course at Stafford only has three forensics related modules in four years. As I said in my earlier post, the problem isn't finding a course, it's finding a good course.

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Posted : 04/10/2005 1:37 pm
KittyDoll
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While I do agree that this doesn’t offer you the clear cut answer you want; one can deduce the universities with a higher ranking offer to a point a better quality of course taking into consideration the various factors used to compile the rankings. After all Imperial College, York & Oxford, all internationally recognised top universities, and didn’t get to the top of the ranking by teaching their graduates how to grate cheese. )

To clarify
This list was posted here in the interest of saving forum space with another topic on the search for information and commentary on various institutions. And followed with a request for further information and comment on those listed as well as names of any other institutions which offered the like.

This list is WIP & does not include Universities offering specific Postgraduate courses in computer forensics.

Anyone offering any first hand comments of the above courses? or have any uni's to add?

It takes a little research & consideration
- both of the reputations of the various institutes of higher learning and the various aspects of the courses offered by them.
- of the specific fields within the industry and the requirements there of to find which most interests you.
- of your financial situation, whether you can afford to study at the institution of you choice
- whether or not you first choice will accept you, if not the selection of a secondary choice, or perhaps even a secondary field of interest.

No one is going to give you a definite answer, only commentary & guidance. The choice will always come down to you. And that takes a little bit of effort.

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Posted : 04/10/2005 3:11 pm
fatrabbit
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I'm well aware that higher ranked institutions offer a better calibre of course and level of instruction, unfortunately not everyone will be in the position to apply to Oxford or uproot and transplant their lives to the opposite end of the country. My problem of finding a good course isn’t a research ability deficit, rather a geographical one. And as you pointed out your post was an invitation to comment on courses and institutions, and in the case of Stafford University that’s what I did.

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Posted : 04/10/2005 4:17 pm
cgpa1
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The course at Stafford only has three forensics related modules in four years. As I said in my earlier post, the problem isn't finding a course, it's finding a good course.

Universities have a fine balance when developing courses and it is sometimes difficult in ensuring both a broad and specific content coverage that will ensure students have the best opportunity of finding employment. The BSc (Hons) Computer Forensics at Northumbria University has six related forensic modules over the four years.

Year 1
Computer Forensics, Criminology and Criminal Justice.

Year 2
Principles of Computer Forensics.
Computer Forensic Applications.

Year 3 Placement Year.

Year 4
Advanced Computer Forensics.
Computer Forensic Case Projects.
Legal and Evidentiary Aspects of Computer Forensics.

I am a Senior Lecturer and helped developed the degree programme and currently teach on the Computer Forensics, Criminology and Criminal Justice module. The information about the course on the University website is incorrect therefore if you have any questions or want further information about the course or module content send me an e-mail to [email protected]

Does anyone know of any European Universities offering similar Computer Forensic Degree's? I would be interested in links and collaboration.

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Posted : 05/10/2005 2:44 pm
Juniper
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I have just started my second year on the Secure and Forensics course at the University of Huddersfield.

There are only two of us on it as we are the first ones to do it. It slants heavily towards Software Development which is OK because it gives you very solid ideas on how Hackers develop software to break into systems, but very difficult simply because you are doing alot of programming.

Much of the Forensic related knowledge comes from self study, the problem is, in my opinion, the prohibitive expense of "recognised" Software like Encase. The good thing is that we do have the power to choose what sort of stuff we want to study in certain modules.

The real forensic stuff comes in the placement and final year.

I would be interested in swapping notes (unfortunately not much in terms of Forensics stuff) , ideas, etc please fell free to contact me via email

[email protected]

cgpa1 - I would be grateful if I could look at some of the stuff you teach or any recommended module reading? D

Thanks in Advance

juniper

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Posted : 17/10/2005 2:51 pm
fatrabbit
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cgpa1, I would also be grateful if you could post some kind of recommended reading list for your course.

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Posted : 17/10/2005 3:56 pm
cgpa1
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For the 1st year module Computer Forensics, Criminology and Criminal Justice we recommend Britz, M. J. (2004) Computer Forensics and Cyber Crime; an Introduction. Pearson Prentice Hall although this maybe a bit basic for some.

Other books for the rest of the year long module include.

Croall, H. (1998) Crime and Society in Britain, Longman.

Marsh, I. (2004) Criminal Justice. Longman.

Newburn, T. (2002) Crime and Criminal Justice Policy Longman

Padfield, N. (2000) Text and Materials on Criminal Justice 2nd edition, Butterworths

Stephens, M. (2000) Crime and Social Policy Gildredge Social Policy, The Gildredge Press

Wasik, M. Gibbons, T and Redmayne, M. (1999) Criminal Justice Texts and
Materials, Longman

Philip

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Posted : 17/10/2005 9:14 pm
fatrabbit
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Very much appreciated, thanks.

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Posted : 18/10/2005 1:40 pm
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