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(@tinybrain)
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I have to understand a 5G-5G roaming connection's crypto layer (key derivation and exchange process). Are you a cop and running 5G CSA?


   
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(@tinybrain)
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Have to learn the paging in 5G for CSA as the TorPEDO attack has an influence on (unknown) Fake Cell Towers in CSA positioning.

#1 My question Can anybody explain to me the paging in general, its effect on CSA?
#2 Is it important to differentiate between direct and indirect paging in 5G?
#3 Is there a risk of sofrware definded radio paging multi (unaware) Fake Cell Towers?

There is a risk that unaware Fake Cell Towers mismatch a CSA (as its a non-physical/non-proofable approach). I still cannot dive through the crypto key exchange in such an approach.

Any Crypto forensic examiner in the wild?


   
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For those that haven't caught up on the TorPEDO news here are some links…..

https://thehackernews.com/2019/02/location-tracking-imsi-catchers.html
https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2019/02/25/privacy-attacks-4g-5g-cellular-networks/
https://www.securitynewspaper.com/2019/02/25/%EF%BB%BFnew-attack-variant-against-4g-and-5g-networks/
https://threatpost.com/torpedo-privacy-4g-5g/142174/
https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/81648/hacking/torpedo-attacks-4g-5g.html

And here is the link to the research paper that originated the current web discussions..

https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ndss2019_05B-5_Hussain_paper.pdf


   
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(@tinybrain)
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Does a mobile recognize if a paging regquest is delayed from genuine source in comparison to a paging request from a fake cell tower?


   
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(@tinybrain)
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The paging runs on PCH Paging CHannel of the physical layer (L1). It seems that a UE cannot detect if after being out of range of a tracking area that it gets paged by a FBS.

Is paging in 5G different from LTE related to crypto?


   
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(@tinybrain)
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Can anybody explain how the PCCH and the PCH interwork in 5G?


   
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