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(@trewmte)
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If you do follow up on the comments below

Huawei is, contact their official channel.

then you may want to ask Huawei what their current position is given Huawei's response to the call for input concerning Fixed Wireless Spectrum Strategy September 2016 at Question 6 a) How do you expect future mobile backhaul network architecture to evolve as part of the 5G ecosystem?

Huawei stated "…the foreseen increase of the front-haul capacity still presents technical and economic challenges such that we don’t foresee wireless front-haul to be deployed save for few limited applications."


   
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Thank you trewmte for your proposal to ask Huawei.

But I got the new NRPPa to study first. Are you familiar with this protocol?


   
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Thank you trewmte for your proposal to ask Huawei.

But I got the new NRPPa (NR Positioning Protocol A (NRPPa))to study first. Are you familiar with this protocol?

I know of it and have a copy of it; I doubt there are too many out there entirely familiar in an operational 5G-NR context in a pure 5G network. Many of the protocols though are already rehearsed in a similar fashion for LTE Positioning Protocol A (LPPa).


   
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5G-NR False Base Stations (Part 1)

https://trewmte.blogspot.com/2019/04/5g-nr-false-base-stations-part-1.html


   
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Toda raba for the blog.

5G FBSs are different. When they group-based circle arount the serving cell they offer to be closer neighbour cells and are waiting for the handover request which they answer correctly. They are False Neighbour Cells FNCs.

Its not about MITM of the serving cell.


   
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Toda raba for the blog.

OK, though the blog post is only Part 1 and only gives an instance of how UE reports can be used to detected one or many FBSs.

5G FBSs are different. When they group-based circle arount the serving cell they offer to be closer neighbour cells and are waiting for the handover request which they answer correctly. They are False Neighbour Cells FNCs.

Doesn't stop 'network' detection of false base stations. Merely poisoning the UE reports going back to the network for handover requests doesn't prevent detection; even if in theory or practical test run under lab conditions. You are forgetting operator analysis, such as 'deployment'.

Furthermore, how are you overcoming pollution of the EM fields with all these new, extra FBSs promulgated into an area, unless you are saying these FBSs do not use signal strength for detection by genuine UEs to request network to handover to your suggested rogues?

Its not about MITM of the serving cell.

MiTM is not limited to one instance. For instance, even in your own scenario above you identify only one serving cell surrounded by FBSs.


   
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You are right.


   
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5G-NR False Base Stations (Part 2)

https://trewmte.blogspot.com/2019/04/5g-nr-false-base-stations-part-2.html


   
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Ok, did you observe FBS in reality or is this a hypothetical approach? Our observations are different.


   
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Ok, did you observe FBS in reality or is this a hypothetical approach? Our observations are different.

Whose observations?
Different - how so?
Relating to which specific piece of information?


   
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