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CopyRight
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Hi Guys,

This time im back with something unique lets see how we can get round this.

So for some reason i am to analyze a car camera. Its a 2010 Land Cruiser from "Toyota", they claim that whenever the gear is shifted to (R- Reverse) the camera on the car screen is enabled so that the driver can view his surroundings to avoid any collision. The dealer has claimed that the car takes automatic snapshots from every video (whenever the car is put into Reverse mode).

So we asked them if theres a way to find out where those screenshots are saved i.e memory of the car, and the answer was "We don't know, we will have to contact the mother company".

Has anyone got any clue where the memory of the car is located, so we can investigate what does it include (i.e images, location etc… ) .

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(@kbertens)
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Just to be clear. On which screen are the camera's shown?
I've seen navigation systems with the possibility to attach a camera. I would search for snapshots/video's on the navigation system if that's the case.


   
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Yeah it shows in the navigation screen, so how can I extract those snapshots from the navigation systems? How do i pull the data ?


   
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Depends on the navigation system of course.
I would recommend to find out what system it is, normally it isn't made by the car manufacturer.
Maybe you can find information about the system on the internet.
The navigation system can be equipped with a harddrive (newer models), the 'older' ones has some kind of flash memory.


   
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(@badgerau)
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Hi

There is no way for the driver/consumer to view these 'snapshots'. I have verified this on a Toyota Hilux, which has the same camera as the Cruiser.

I am not the owner of the vehicle and have not inspected the camera unit (which is is also the main display for the radio, mobile phone etc).

I would be interested to learn your findings as this is of interest to me too.

Thanks


   
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There is probably no way to view the snapshots as a consumer, but as a forensic investigator….

@Badgerau, do you have information about the navigation system. any HD inside?


   
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I have requested access to the vehicle but it may take a few days before I can report back.


   
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I have requested access to the vehicle but it may take a few days before I can report back.

Yeah , sure once i've done anything new i'll keep you guys posted, i find this relatively interesting..

So basically, if the car has a navigation that deals with (NAND chips) then JTAG and Chip offs are the only ways of aquisition, however if the CAR has a (HARD DRIVE) methods of aquisitions are much simpler.

have a look at this Vehicle Forensics
If anyone comes up with something new please let us know.


   
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Had a look at the car today and could not find any USB ports. Without taking the dashboard apart I was not able to determine if/where the hard drive is located, but I would assume it may be part of the CMS as the GPS is integrated into this system too.

I only had an hour with the vehicle.


   
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Have you considered using the OBD or UPA port, instead of USB?

It might fall under driver's supplementary vehicle instrumentation, or vehicle telematics. Newer Intelligent Parking Assist Systems (IPAS) ties directly into OBD because it needs to know of the gear position, and steering wheel turn for projection curve (curved guidelines).

You can get an OBD & UPA to USB kits for less than $10.

There is even a Bluetooth version, where data goes to an Android phone.


   
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