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zhaan
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I have come across a file with the signature of a Windows 3.xx cardfile but the header within the file of a 3gp file.

Header of file

ftyp3gp4….3gp4isom….mdat

I realise the reason forensic software sees this as a card file is because of the file suffix, .crd, but am slightly confused that the header in the file actually indicates it to be a 3gp file.

Any help on how to open or view this file would be greatly appreciated.


   
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jaclaz
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What does TriD say? ?

http//mark0.net/soft-trid-e.html

Check these also
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QTCH
http//forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-135127.html
http//www.forensicfocus.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=6513849

It seems to me like a MP4 or quicktime file.

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zhaan
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Good tip, examined with trid and found 74.9% is mp4 and 25.0% is adobe photoshop.

Any tips on a good mp4 player? The one i am using is refusing to open it even after renaming the suffix to mp4.


   
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Media Player Classic and VLC are both good general purpose media players


   
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zhaan
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Agreed, normally they are, sadly i think i am dealing with something a little bit special as the usual suspects aint helping.

What is still bothering me is the fact the file was suffixed .crd and not a media suffix.

This does not sit right at all. This data was extracted from a crude cctv system using what appears to be a mobile phone camera connected to a 1gb micro sd card via a circuit board.

The file itself was deleted but I was able to retrieve it to examine and get the header info from, maybe the body of data is corrupted.


   
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jaclaz
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MP4 are "tough" as they may be encoded/compressed/whatever with different codecs/algorithms.

Something you may want to try
XviD
http//www.xvid.org/Project-Info.46.0.html
3ivx
http//www.3ivx.com/
ffdshow
http//www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDshow.htm

etc.

jaclaz


   
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When you say crude do you mean home made? If it is a mobile phone camera maybe you could try the Nokia media player or something similar?

A lot of commercial CCTV systems use proprietary formats, where they basically take a normal video format and tweak it slightly to only play in their own players. This might be why the results were 75% mp4 and 25% Photoshop. If it is a commercial product try contacting the manufacturer to find out what their player is.

There is also a research paper recently done by Coventry University that outlines the format and structure of a popular CCTV system. It does cost a little to download the paper, but it might be of use http//www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B7CW4-4V57Y3F-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=db8e5ace59c2bff2d1010c14a76b4f92


   
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zhaan
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yes home made, downed and tried the Nokia media player on friday funnily enough.

Still looking around for other players.

Thanks to the advice i have received so far i have got some things to work on.

Thanks all for your input, i really appreciate it.


   
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jaclaz
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Another one to try, VLC
http//www.videolan.org/vlc/

It should be one of the most "open minded" tools.

jaclaz


   
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