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I personally find it unhelpful when people say they have done some research on Google but found little info on the subject.

What evidence does anyone have that a search was done at all?
Wouldn't you think that a better type of a response would be I've done research on Google and came up with (insert link here) which helped somewhat, but still left me wondering …..

The new thing seems to be where someone will start off with I used the search function and Google but found nothing, but the first responder (wow got a CF pun in there) to the post finds something right away.

This is why saying I searched for "ereader forensics" in quotes or I searched for kindle forensics would help everyone in the thread much more.

Its about time this forum has clamped down on this. I personally find it unhelpful when people suggest Google and supply no other info in their reply. If the OP clearly hasnt done their research or used a search engine then people are well within their rights to suggest it. Suggesting it in the first reply is just not helpful. I am a member of several other forums and I have never seen this response used so much as on here.

Back to my original question;

I have done some research using Google but found little info on the subject so thought i would put the question out to the experts and people who are more in the know than myself.

Thanks.

 
Posted : 29/09/2010 9:51 pm
ehuber
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That makes sense. The Kindle is the logical choice for this sort of research and the recent price cut by Amazon is helpful given your financial requirements for this project.

 
Posted : 29/09/2010 10:11 pm
Jamie
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I personally find it unhelpful when people say they have done some research on Google but found little info on the subject.

What evidence does anyone have that a search was done at all?

I'm sure it's not your intention to cast aspersions on anyone in particular but at a bare minimum I find that comment unhelpful in a thread which has moved on to become a genuinely useful discussion.

Let's get this clear everyone - whether you like it or not, I'll moderate these forums in line with the principles I've now outlined on numerous occasions. One of those principles is that reasonable questions - regardless of whether or not the OP has searched elsewhere - are acceptable. I've gone some way to encouraging people to both search and report their findings but that's a "nice to have", not a necessity.

If that offends anyone's sensibilities or they think it's a foolish position for me to take - so be it. In that case, they may find other discussion forums more to their liking.

I'm not looking for any further discussion or debate on this matter - please consider the policy outlined above part of the official acceptable use policy of this site. Ignoring this policy and continuing to question or berate other members will, inevitably, make continued participation here unlikely.

Jamie

 
Posted : 29/09/2010 10:36 pm
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At least with the Kindle my girlfriend can have it for xmas when i am done with it D

My dissertation will need to be more than just a forensic analysis of the kindle. It would likely have to involve looking at security issues maybe with the os or the 3G/wifi.

Jamie, thanks.

 
Posted : 29/09/2010 11:06 pm
ehuber
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At least with the Kindle my girlfriend can have it for xmas when i am done with it D

That's the sort of problem solving ability that we need in the digital forensics field. )

My dissertation will need to be more than just a forensic analysis of the kindle. It would likely have to involve looking at security issues maybe with the os or the 3G/wifi.

Hmmm…that could make for a very interesting aspect of the paper now that I think about it. Maybe there is something cool to research regarding any potential security implications for Wispernet, the OS, etc. I know I'd be very interested in reading whatever you came up with in the end.

 
Posted : 29/09/2010 11:31 pm
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That's the sort of problem solving ability that we need in the digital forensics field. )

Kill 2 birds with 1 stone D

I have been fairly busy lately so havent done much in the way of work on my dissertation. I have so far purchased a Kindle 3 which ive played around with. Good bit of kit. A problem I have come across and havent found the answer to is whether there is a way to install your own software on to the Kindle. Any ideas?

Thanks.

 
Posted : 05/11/2010 8:05 pm
 96hz
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http//igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/hacking-kindle-part-3-root-shell-and.html

 
Posted : 05/11/2010 8:10 pm
Beerbaron
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http//igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/hacking-kindle-part-3-root-shell-and.html

LOL thanks D

Im looking at that very same page now

 
Posted : 05/11/2010 8:11 pm
Beerbaron
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I have found a very good thread that gives a step by step guide to gaining a root shell via USB for the Kindle 3.

http//www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97745

I just need to see what software i can install on it now.

 
Posted : 06/11/2010 12:29 am
eygonzal
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Lets get back the original topic. BeerBaron, you might not find anything related to eReader forensics but if you dig a little deeper and concentrate, on maybe some types of ereaders then you might luck out.

For instance, I found this article pertaining to the Nook. http//viaforensics.com/android-forensics/nook-torn-open-hacked-rooted-gadget-lab-wired-com.html.

These snippets of information can give you a huge insight in the direction you should be taking. For example, most of the eReaders out there are running some form of linux but more recently Android.

Here is an example of what was stated above.

"If you tear open a Nook (which the team has done) you’ll find that the Android operating system is contained on a microSD card (separate from the microSD expansion slot)."

This is HUGE. Now you know that at least for the nook, the slimmed down OS is located on the SD card. You could then do further investigation into maybe acquiring an image of the SD card and what software can be useful for viewing such files on the Android file system.

Hope this helps.

 
Posted : 06/11/2010 2:16 am
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