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neddy
(@neddy)
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Has anyone tried this yet?

http//www.macforensicslab.com/ProductsAndServices/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=277


   
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(@zbrojovka)
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Just downloaded it yesterday and got my key to activate. Haven't tried it yet either, but I'm sure I'll get to next week.


   
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(@seanmcl)
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Another Law Enforcement Only product. Don't these guys realize that the private sector frequently needs to scan for the same things and that most non-LE products which detect suspect files through skin tone or other analysis end up altering MAC times?

I had a case a few months back where the FBI requested that an organization do its own enterprise scan or hire the services of an outside agent to do it. Their counsel retained us and as we were concerned with preserving any information which might be needed, forensically, we ended up borrowing their licensed software to do it.

It would have been much easier if we could have licensed it, ourselves, as this isn't the first case that we've had involving such a scan.


   
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neddy
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Restricting products to LE agencies only, seems to the private sector, to be both unfair and unneccessary. I can see why the private sector maintains this opinion but since LE is a huge player in the market, it makes sense for a vendor to apply the restriction in order to appear to LE agencies to be 'pro LE'.
LE do not like the general community to have access to their methods and tools and go to great lengths in restricting this information in order to thwart 'anti-forensic' activities.
You may ask, is this unfair and unneccessary? I would say it is not but I do have sympathy for those who have a need for such products and are denied them.


   
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(@code_slave)
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Another "realbasic" product.
To be in complete control of a computer you need to be in C++
I used to develop with real basic , but it was so damned full of bugs i gave up.

It makes me really really unhappy to see forensic products written in basic.

I actually got the demo version and started 'taking it apart' some time ago, I can say I was NOT impressed.

http//reverse.put.as/2008/12/03/searching-for-a-pace-interlok-protected-application/

http//www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/21046/macforensicslab

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"IRONMAN $ 1000 for a little real basic application is just stealing money from people stay away from it

Then they got REAL defensive

SUBROSASOFT MacForensicsLab offers a complete forensic suite for just a small portion of what other companies charge for their forensic products. MacForensicsLab offers many features you won't find in any other forensic product. Skin tone filtering, credit card & social security number filtering, remote SQL reporting allowing multiple investigators to work on the same case simultaneously, powerful reporting, and many others.

I don't understand how you can review our product without ever trying it (we have never issued you a demo serial number). "

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Personally I like to see independent validation of such software, something they are not happy doing.


   
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BattleSpeed
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To paraphrase Ronald Reagan - "Trust, but verify - and do it before you buy."

Forums such as this one should spell doom for inferior and/or overpriced products by exposing their defects, inferior design and/or critical limitations.


   
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(@jwulff)
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Another Law Enforcement Only product.

Not true. It is free to Law Enforcement but non-LE can purchase if for $19.95.


   
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(@seanmcl)
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Another Law Enforcement Only product.

Not true. It is free to Law Enforcement but non-LE can purchase if for $19.95.

When it was first announced in September, there was no mention of a distribution for non-LE in SubRosa Softs press releases. Either that was an oversight or they have updated their licensing practice.


   
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(@jonathan)
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it makes sense for a vendor to apply the restriction in order to appear to LE agencies to be 'pro LE'.

In a fact-seeking exercise such as forensics for a tool or a vendor of a tool to be 'pro' one side or the other wouldn't look too good in court.

LE do not like the general community to have access to their methods and tools and go to great lengths in restricting this information in order to thwart 'anti-forensic' activities.

Possibly but that would be counter to Principle 3 of the ACPO guidelines. It would be difficult for an independent third-party to recreate the same results without access to either the tools or methodology used to create the results in the first place.


   
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(@seanmcl)
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Possibly but that would be counter to Principle 3 of the ACPO guidelines. It would be difficult for an independent third-party to recreate the same results without access to either the tools or methodology used to create the results in the first place.

I would think that in the US it would violate the confrontation clause of the Sixth Amendment.


   
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