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sgreene2991
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I keep seeing a version of Exchange called "14.02.5004.000" yet the most recent version of is "14.02.0318.002", am I missing something? Does it say that it is MS Exchange and really its something else?

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Posted : 29/08/2012 11:46 pm
 Anonymous

I think this is MS exchange. nothing else.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 11:05 am
BitHead
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^^How is that answer helpful?

On the Official build list HERE, I am not even seeing 14.02.0318.002. May 29, 2012 14.02.0309.002 is shown as the latest.

Are your running a command in the shell to get that version number or querying the Exchange Server Object in Active Directory? Give me a bit and I will check some of the VMs I have to see what version they are running.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 7:55 pm
jaclaz
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On the Official build list HERE, I am not even seeing 14.02.0318.002. May 29, 2012 14.02.0309.002 is shown as the latest.

JFYI
http//www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30478

Version 14.02.0318.002

It looks like the "official build list" needs an update….
Quite a serious matter IMHO, since the update is rated Critical
http//technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/Bulletin/MS12-058

On the other hand, if you just google for "14.02.5004.000" you will find any number of .ics files with content

X-ALT-DESC;FMTTYPE=text/html<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//E
N">\n<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server ve
rsion 14.02.5004.000">\n<TITLE></TITLE>\n</HEAD>\n

jaclaz

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Posted : 30/08/2012 8:27 pm
BitHead
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Thanks for the link Jaclaz, however Rollup 4 is quite old. Rollup 7 is the current.

I was trying to find something official from MS with build numbers, and unfortunately the page I linked to seems to be the most current.

FWIW I just queried one of the VMs I have. It is running Rollup 6 and shows Version 14.1 and in the console it still shows 14.01.0393.000.

EDIT Just installed Rollup 7 and it displays the same version info as Rollup 6.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 8:40 pm
jaclaz
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Thanks for the link Jaclaz, however Rollup 4 is quite old. Rollup 7 is the current.

…..

EDIT Just installed Rollup 7 and it displays the same version info as Rollup 6.

Hmmm. 😯

I presume that SP2 R4 is still more recent than SP1 R7….

From the very page you listed for Rollup 7 (for Service Pack

1

)
http//www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30480

Update Rollup 7 for Exchange Server 2010 Service Pack 1

Version 14.01.0421.000 Date published 8/13/2012

PLease note how on the page for Rollup 4 (for Service Pack

2

) there is also

Update Rollup 4 for Exchange Server 2010 Service Pack 2
Version 14.02.0318.002 Date published 8/13/2012

Me still thinks that the good MS guys are doing (again) a nice mess with versions and dates….

jaclaz

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Posted : 30/08/2012 9:37 pm
BitHead
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I presume that SP2 R4 is still more recent than SP1 R7….

One would think. But Windows Update does not seem to think so.

I have Exchange running in a VM just for testing and Windows Update shows Exchange as up to date. Makes me wonder how many unpatched Exchange 2010 servers are out there. I am downloading SP2 just to play, it will be interesting to see what WU thinks after I install that.

You just have to love patch management.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 11:07 pm
jaclaz
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From the mouth of the wolf
http//technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff637979.aspx

Several improvements have been made in servicing for Exchange 2010, including

  • An integrated automated test product that is built together with the shipping product. Therefore, we can perform better integrated, end-to-end system testing than was possible with previous versions of Microsoft Exchange.
  • Windows Installer is used instead of the Update.exe installation program.
  • Update rollup packages are cumulative. For example, if you apply Update Rollup 4 on a computer that is running Exchange 2010, you receive all the fixes in that specific update package together with all the fixes that were released in all earlier update rollup packages. That is, in Update Rollup 4, you receive all the updates that were released in the previous Update Rollup 1 through Update Rollup 3 packages plus the updates in Update Rollup 4.

Note
This approach to updating doesn't replace service packs for the product. Additional product fixes and features are released in separately available service packs for Exchange 2010.

(bolding is mine)

http//technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff637981.aspx

After you install an update rollup for Exchange 2010, the version of Exchange Server isn't updated to show that the update rollup is installed. This issue occurs because the version number that is displayed by the Exchange Management Console or by other administrative mechanisms is obtained from the Exchange Server Object in Active Directory.

http//technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb232170.aspx

Exchange 2010 Versions
Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Exchange Server 2010 is available and is the most recent version of the product.

Service Pack 1 (SP1) for Exchange Server 2010 and the release to manufacturing (RTM) version of Exchange Server 2010 are also available.

Exchange 2010 Build Versioning
The SP1 version of Exchange 2010 is 14.01.0218.015. The RTM version of Exchange 2010 is 14.00.0639.021. This version information is consistently displayed in the Exchange Management Console, the Exchange Management Shell, and in the About Exchange Server 2010 Help dialog box.

You can also use the Get-ExchangeServer cmdlet and examine the AdminDisplayVersion property for the Exchange 2010 build version. For more information about deploying fixes and update rollups for Exchange 2010, see Exchange 2010 Servicing.

It seems like this latter Get-ExchangeServer cmdlet is needed to get the stupid version number
http//technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123873.aspx

As seen from the outside it still resembles a bunch of headless chickens running around in circles…..

jaclaz

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Posted : 31/08/2012 12:29 am
BitHead
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As seen from the outside it still resembles a bunch of headless chickens running around in circles…..

It has always been a case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing at MS. Makes me glad that I am not doing patch management day to day.

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Posted : 31/08/2012 12:42 am
BitHead
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And for anyone that is interested, Exchange 2010 SP2, with supposedly all the patches, rollups, etc. returns the following
Exchange Management Console Version 14.02.0318.001
Exchange Management Shell Version 14.2

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Posted : 31/08/2012 1:45 am
sgreene2991
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On the other hand, if you just google for "14.02.5004.000" you will find any number of .ics files with content

That is exactly what I have found, yet I also am finding them in email headers from a case I am working on. It is baffling me to say the least. I'm not sure what to do, it doesn't have a lot of relevance to this project, but it would be nice to be able to explain it if it comes up.

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Posted : 31/08/2012 10:43 am
jaclaz
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On the other hand, if you just google for "14.02.5004.000" you will find any number of .ics files with content

That is exactly what I have found, yet I also am finding them in email headers from a case I am working on. It is baffling me to say the least. I'm not sure what to do, it doesn't have a lot of relevance to this project, but it would be nice to be able to explain it if it comes up.

Well, if you check one of the results, this one as an example
http//answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-wpapps/calendar-wont-adjust-to-daylight-savings-time-so/6c14ee9d-f94b-4af8-9247-f0a83098a939?msgId=b6b03d5e-6575-47bd-8f98-bb8b4ffff39d
it seems like the "generating app" is actually Microsoft Outlook (14.0)

BEGINVCALENDAR
PRODID-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 14.0 MIMEDIR//EN

and the "14.02.5004.000" is just in the "x-ALT-DESC"

X-ALT-DESC;FMTTYPE=text/html<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//E
N">\n<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server ve
rsion 14.02.5004.000">\n<TITLE></TITLE>\n</HEAD>\n<BODY>\n<!– Converted f
rom text/rtf format –>\n\n<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>\n\n</
BODY>\n</HTML>

It sounds like (since I doubt that "all the world" has an Exchange Server installed, that the whole thingy is generated by Outlook only and -somehow- uses that q***r MS Exchange ID.

You should be able to reproduce the behaviour on a machine running OUTLOOK not connected to *any* Exchange Server…..
Outlook "14.0 should be "Office 2010" …

jaclaz

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Posted : 31/08/2012 4:16 pm
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