mini-SIM Cards

Hi,

I have just received an O2 Micro-SIM inside an iPhone 4, and the contacts are smaller than a normal sized SIM. My question is will an adapter suffice so the SIM can be examined using an Omnikey or other methods?

Many thanks

http//fonefunshop.biz/Sim-Cards/Micro-Sim-Card-to-Normal-Sim-Card-Converter.html

I have used this previously. Although it is fiddly it does work.

Thanks Doug, ordered some yesterday. One more question……..this will hopefully allow me to read the SIM, but how about cloning it? i know i can examine the iPhone without a SIM and by looking at the SIM slot it is a lot smaller so a normal sized SIM will not fit. I have emailed the major players in phone forensics without any responses yet

thanks

Hi Steve

Are you using something like XRY to create a cloned SIM card?

If so, you can cut a standard SIM card down to the dimensions of a Micro-SIM

Take a look at this link

Im not too sure about the meat cleaver aspect of this, however it does seem to give some good guidelines of how to do the conversion. I also found it useful to have a nail file on hand for some fine tuning to get the correct size.

Hi Steve

Are you using something like XRY to create a cloned SIM card?

If so, you can cut a standard SIM card down to the dimensions of a Micro-SIM

Take a look at this link

Im not too sure about the meat cleaver aspect of this, however it does seem to give some good guidelines of how to do the conversion. I also found it useful to have a nail file on hand for some fine tuning to get the correct size.

Couldn't have put it better myself D

Remember that you do need a handset access card in place otherwise it won't show you any voicemail files on the handset.

thanks JD, will look in 'butchering' a clone SIM and seeing if that works when the adapters arrive…….one concern i had is the Micro-SIM chip is smaller than a normal SIM chip…..does this make any difference?

cheers guys, found a Micro-SIM cutter on fonefunshop so going to give that a go!

one concern i had is the Micro-SIM chip is smaller than a normal SIM chip…..does this make any difference?

Hi Steve

The actual chip inside a SIM card is about 5mm x 5mm in the centre of the contact pad. The exposed contacts are enlarged to make connectivity easier when inserting into a phone.

So far I have only modified one SIM card and it works well in my iPad D

I have noticed, and I am included in doing this too from time to time, that we are getting into using colloquial or slang terminology which is, infact, technically incorrect. We all understand each other as to what we mean, but for Courts to hear or reports read by inexperienced people may not understand and therefore we may be doing ourselves a disservice.

I started the thread using mini-SIM and I see we have now branched out into using micro-SIM. There is no such technical reference to 'micro-SIM' in the standards, as in reality there is no reference to a 'mini-SIM' either. The correct technical terminology is 'mini-UICC', first standardised in 2004-03 (TS102221).

I started the thread using mini-SIM and I see we have now branched out into using micro-SIM. There is no such technical reference to 'micro-SIM' in the standards, as in reality there is no reference to a 'mini-SIM' either. The correct technical terminology is 'mini-UICC', first standardised in 2004-03 (TS102221).

The reason that people refer to the term "Micro SIM" is most likely due to the fact that manufacturers and many service providers also use this term to describe the mini-UICC format of SIM Card.

In many walks of life there are empirical names given to items, such as medicines, however there are also more widely used generic names used to describe these products.

If you have a headache, do you go into a pharmacy and ask for some iso-butyl-propanoic-phenolic acid or do you ask for ibuprofen?