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(@sherlock)
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I wonder if anyone knows whether it is possible to tell whether a call was made directly through a mobile phone or using a bluetooth headset. This is, of course, relevant when a person talking on a phone while driving claims they were using a headset rather than their hands (which would be an offence).

In the particular case I am looking at it is a Nokia 6303 classic with a bluetooth headset. Bluetooth is on, visible to all, and paired with the headset. However, the headset has the auto-connection set negative so permission would have to be granted to use the headset on a call.


   
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(@trewmte)
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This is, of course, relevant when a person talking on a phone while driving claims they were using a headset rather than their hands (which would be an offence).

From your comments it isn't clear whether there is a handset cradle in use to support the handset whilst the user is driving, which opens up suggestions the handset might be hand-held, in a pocket or laying somewhere in the vehicle?

If there is a handset cradle and it is linked into the vehicle power system, providing a power booster for the handset, then that could be a useful piece of evidence too in relation to RRM skip indicator/protocol discriminator identifiers. In other words there might be a record available that could be used to illustrate why the handset is not being hand-held.

Also see http//trewmte.blogspot.com/2008/12/research-into-hands-free-mobile-calls.html

In the particular case I am looking at it is a Nokia 6303 classic with a bluetooth headset. Bluetooth is on, visible to all, and paired with the headset. However, the headset has the auto-connection set negative so permission would have to be granted to use the headset on a call.

The Nokia datahsheet for this handset identifies three models of Bluetooth headset for use with the Nokia 6303

Nokia Bluetooth Headset BH-600
Nokia Bluetooth Headset BH-606
Nokia Bluetooth Headset BH-900

Perhaps establish the bluetooth headset make/model and whether there are any compatibility issues that might need to be investigated. For instance, can audibility of a conversation only occur

- only through headset when paired and selected
- through the handset even if headset is paired
- through headset/handset at the same time (although feedback might be a problem)

I suspect that some practical tests might be worth considering.


   
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(@burratha)
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In fairness, Greg, although the Nokia manual states those Nokia Bluetooth headsets are compatible, there are almost countless other (including vehicle handsfree systems) that will/can/should work equally as well (and probably better in some cases).


   
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(@trewmte)
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In fairness, Greg, although the Nokia manual states those Nokia Bluetooth headsets are compatible, there are almost countless other (including vehicle handsfree systems) that will/can/should work equally as well (and probably better in some cases).

Very fair point, Steve, there are dozens and dozens. But it is not the point I am making, which is about deviation away from the handset manufacturer's specified bluetooth models/devices. I have seen generic bluetooth headsets that can cause slight functional variation. It is this I am suggesting to the original poster that s/he may care to investigate.


   
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Hmmm…

a couple of personal notes regarding usage
I never ever used manufacturer recommended bluetooth earpieces. Right now I have a BlueAnt 9zi. They make no telephones.
I never ever used a cradle for my cell phone.
I almost always plug in my phone to a charger when in the car.

Is there a last paired & connection time on the phone? I know on my Samsung it tells me "pairing date" and "last connection".


   
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(@sherlock)
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Thank you for your comments. In the particular case to which I refer the bluetooth headset was a Jabra BT4010 which is designed to work with Bluetooth mobile phones.

Is there a last paired & connection time on the phone? I know on my Samsung it tells me "pairing date" and "last connection".

This is really the sort of information that could be invaluable in such a situation but I could not find similar information on the Nokia. Yet if Samsung holds it I wonder if it is not hidden somewhere in the depths of other makes.


   
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It would, but there are a ton, nay, 2 tons of presumptions in my note.

The specific OS, carrier, etc. all US specs.

I only worked with… <gulp> Verizon Wireless telephones so far. oops

It is possible that the information is hidden there somewhere.


   
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(@trewmte)
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Sherlock I use a 6303 and it doesn't have the facility in the <options> menu to set a date/time. I agree with jhup and you that date/time could be useful evidence.

Have you considered the flasher boxes or seeing if Oxygen, Cellebrite, XRY etc about extracting and harvesting

- last used bluetooth devices?
- clock details (if applicable)?

I can see there is a potential for my observations to be self-defeating because it might not be possible in your matter to show bluetooth device date/time connectivity captured from the device. Depending on your case, might be worth the additional effort.


   
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(@alexc)
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The older Nokias had, at the least, the Bluetooth MAC addresses in the normal PM dump - but the ones I'm thinking of were all DCT-4 handsets, the 6303 is BB5 and the PM reads tend to be less interesting - definitely worth a look though.


   
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