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I wouzd have zike to see a bit more precise tests. That is azz.

(the zetter between k & ; is broken on this kbd. D)

Everything changes, and changes all the time.

Corollary
[quote="Gregory House M.D.]"Everybody lies

It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what.

I am pretty sure that a bunch of electrons or positrons or bosons or whatever may have migrated from the radio to the hard disk but would they create a valid picture, and a p0rn one? 😯

Besides being - child pornography apart - a good way to save on adult magazines and online payed sites roll , it could be the start of the development of an actual Infinite Improbability Drive wink
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_in_The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Infinite_Improbability_Drive

@mscotgrove
…and a few had also alien devices implanted
http//www.ufoencounters.co.uk/truth-about-alien-implants-human-bodies.html
http//www.project1947.com/kbimpcat.htm
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_implants

Would that be a valid reason for not being employed (classified as "body modification")? ?
http//www.forensicfocus.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7008

Or … since such implants are said to emit radio waves, may a policeman (abducted by UFO's and with such a device implanted) create a porn image by simply holding the seized PC in his hands?

jaclaz


   
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child pornography mysteriously appeared on his client's computer after it was transported in the trunk of a police car next to the radio.

Maybe you might consider some or all of the observations below

1) what was meant by "radio"?
2) what was the RF transmission technology of the radio?
3) whether the computer could firstly detect the RF from the radio?
4) whether the computer understood the RF and content protocols from the radio?
5) why was the "seized" computer left switched ON?
6) from where did the computer draw its power source?
7) if the radio is meant to mean police radio
7.1) what is the State law and police policy about handling seized goods and CP?
7.2) why was police radio being used to broadcast CP?
7.3) was the police office expecting and to knowingly be in possession of CP?
7.4) Are the police department(s)/chief of police/police officer being criminally prosecuted for creating/making, handling and distributing CP?

(any arrests?….)

….and so on

The list I originally wrote down was much longer but went into too much investigative and technical detail, where as some points of investigation/forensic consideration might be more useful to you.


   
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jaclaz
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(the zetter between k & ; is broken on this kbd. D)

That's exact|y where the |337 e|ected ones wink can 0utc|@§§ your - p|ease @||ow me - poor choice for |etter substitution….. roll

jaclaz


   
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Thank you all,

I found the origin of this statement.

It was on a slide of an Electronic Crime Scene Investigation course on the CPKN (Canadian Police Knowledge Network) website

but no references


   
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azrael
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child pornography mysteriously appeared on his client's computer after it was transported in the trunk of a police car next to the radio.

Maybe you might consider some or all of the observations below

1) what was meant by "radio"?
2) what was the RF transmission technology of the radio?
3) whether the computer could firstly detect the RF from the radio?
4) whether the computer understood the RF and content protocols from the radio?
5) why was the "seized" computer left switched ON?
6) from where did the computer draw its power source?
7) if the radio is meant to mean police radio
7.1) what is the State law and police policy about handling seized goods and CP?
7.2) why was police radio being used to broadcast CP?
7.3) was the police office expecting and to knowingly be in possession of CP?
7.4) Are the police department(s)/chief of police/police officer being criminally prosecuted for creating/making, handling and distributing CP?

(any arrests?….)

….and so on

The list I originally wrote down was much longer but went into too much investigative and technical detail, where as some points of investigation/forensic consideration might be more useful to you.

These are some good questions, but I note that you have made the assumption that the computer was left on - this wasn't stated as such.

I do rather like the suggestion though, that if this had _somehow_ been proven to be true, then you'd be right - the police would have had to be guilty of distribution ! Especially as the "radio" is specifically designed to cross a large area as a broadcast !


   
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….I note that you have made the assumption that the computer was left on - this wasn't stated as such.

I take your point. ) No, that is quite true, it wasn't stated, but are you then making the assumption the computer was switched OFF. How do you know that to be fact?

It did occur to me, how would the HDD read/write heads function to record if there was no power? I deduce, at least from the approach in this thread, we are not going down the the line of discussing some sort of Star Trek Teleporting of data or usurping the laws of physics.

Of course, if the computer used flash memory, 'tunnelling' as an option, could be/might be???

I do rather like the suggestion though, that if this had _somehow_ been proven to be true, then you'd be right - the police would have had to be guilty of distribution ! Especially as the "radio" is specifically designed to cross a large area as a broadcast !

But then again this is a standard police officer, police car and radio (again suggestive but not clarified). Assuming it wasn't the police radio, then bluetooth/wifi (but would that not need power to the computer for those two items?).


   
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azrael
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… but are you then making the assumption the computer was switched OFF. How do you know that to be fact?

Touché ! 😉

It did occur to me, how would the HDD read/write heads function to record if there was no power? I deduce, at least from the approach in this thread, we are not going down the the line of discussing some sort of Star Trek Teleporting of data or usurping the laws of physics.

I'd gone down the whole electro-magnetic wave theory as a direct actor on the disk - that given a wavelength similar to the track size then … ( and at this point my Physics A level runs out … ) … the magnetic particles could be rearranged - much as a degausser does, but with a lot more finnesse. -)


   
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I know nothing of the case and am only guessing, but perhaps this case is more about the prosecution couldn't prove that the system hadn't been modified or perhaps it came out of sleep mode and hibernated post seizure and had access dates showing this.

Therefore, if it appears to have been modified post seizure, maybe anything is possible - defence solicitor pushing a point and prosecution not being prepared to challenge it.


   
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azrael
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It was on a slide of an Electronic Crime Scene Investigation course on the CPKN (Canadian Police Knowledge Network) website

They don't seem to be running this one anymore 😉

http//www.cpkn.ca/course_catalogue_category


   
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(@jpgauvin)
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@azrael

you're right, it's not there anymore

I hope they'll put it back online


   
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