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RolfGutmann
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Want 2 Learn? - With o.bike a new bike service arrived in our area. The simple process is

1. download App
2. register with email/phone and credit card
3. enable locations services - go
4. get rid of bike

The question to learn is how can someone steal a oBike completely anonymous? Apple ID or Google Play store account, credit card, SIM-Card and finally remove the solar-gps-lock and dis-power it.

Learn yourself if this is possible in your location, country and area. Think about how the technician
finds his bikes for repair and maintenance and how to attribute damage to last user.


   
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jaclaz
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Question to learn? ?

Maybe you meant, "here is a random idea, find yourself which vulnerabilities the o.bike service has".

BTW isn't it in Singapore only?

jaclaz


   
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RolfGutmann
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Please respect my post as it is - you are different and would formulate it differently. Apropos BTW pls update


   
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jaclaz
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Please respect my post as it is - you are different and would formulate it differently. Apropos BTW pls update

I only read the (presumably) o.bike site here
https://www.o.bike/

(you do understand that you didn't provide any reference, not even specifying WHERE "our local area" is?).

And is not at all about respect it is about CLARYFYING what you post, which sometimes comes in a convoluted or however not understandable English.

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SamBrown
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In a case of a bilke theft we had configured a geofence-area of movement but were unsure about the amount of places which needed to be controlled. As this case happend in-city we started to contact people living nearby about their bike rental activity logs as we had the suspect's mobile registration plate. It came out that the bike user very eagerly log the activities as they also have different lease times. But after questioning the suspect a tiny bit we learned the in-app data connection he used to geotimeline the incident. We also got to see where the suspect moved.
Fun fact The bike is talking over Bluetooth 4 (low energy) to the app and scans 10 times per second the area surroundings.


   
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jaclaz
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Curiouser and curiouser!

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RolfGutmann
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oBikeS have no built-in GPS. If unlocked they take the user's mobile's GPS location. If locked they are silent. Paid content article on tagesanzeiger.ch.


   
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OBikes do have GPS. in Australia the company collects them almost on a daily basis from local beaches and takes them back up the 'hill' where they are then rented again to drive back down to the beach. They know where they are at all times, apparently.

The company is experiencing a high level of vandalism, whith bikes being pulled out of the river and Sydney harbour. The company hopes that as these bikes become more popular, then vandalism will decrease.

http//www.theage.com.au/victoria/vermin-dozens-of-obikes-pulled-from-yarra-river-20170926-gyp1k1.html

http//www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/southern-courier/vandals-target-rental-bikes-left-in-beachside-suburbs-reducing-them-to-litter-says-mayor/news-story/c538850ee0bea28092cdd5ed9d7e788f


   
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RolfGutmann
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Are you able to find out about the GPS receiver inside the combined black-lock-solar-appliance? Would be very helpful!

Our newspaper statet that oBikes 'take' the GPS position from the user's mobile and communicate to their server by eSIM probably.

If you get hans-on can you also picture the eSIM or other SIM embedding?

Thank you badgerau!


   
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I agree with your suspicion of the location of the GPS being under the solar panel but I have not taken one apart!


   
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