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ISO 17025 for Digital Forensics – Yay or Nay?

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(@trewmte)
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Thanks Pat for the heads up. Just to add to Rob's comments.

It is the admission to the HoC Committee by the FSR of the loss of experts and skilled individuals because of under funding and those who lost their employment cannot be repeatedly made redundant; they simply leave the field of forensics.

The lack of a coherent system available for single-person and micro-businesses.


   
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(@pbeardmore)
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I think I may invite Mr Lamb down to our office for a tea, home made cake and a different view re real life digital forensics and 17025.

Happy to be corrected but the suitability of 17025 re computer forensics never came up in that video and it's clear to me that there clearly is an issue here. So well reflected in this thread.

PS I assume at some point, a full transcript of the session will be published.


   
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minime2k9
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I think I may invite Mr Lamb down to our office for a tea, home made cake and a different view re real life digital forensics and 17025.

Happy to be corrected but the suitability of 17025 re computer forensics never came up in that video and it's clear to me that there clearly is an issue here. So well reflected in this thread.

PS I assume at some point, a full transcript of the session will be published.

I would love to be there for that discussion. Do you think we could crowd fund it?


   
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steve862
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I think I may invite Mr Lamb down to our office for a tea, home made cake and a different view re real life digital forensics and 17025.

I'll put my apron on and get baking.


   
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jaclaz
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I think I may invite Mr Lamb down to our office for a tea, home made cake and a different view re real life digital forensics and 17025.

I'll put my apron on and get baking.

You must be joking. 😯

Making tea (and serving home made cake) in the office? !

You need a special permit to make tea (if offered to anyone that is not an employee of the company or a relative within the second degree of one), and list all possible allergenes in the home made cake[1].

And don't forget the known issue about water at boiling point, you need a certificate of calibration of the thermometer not older than six month.

wink

jaclaz

[1]Notwithstanding that apart the signed waiver by the recipient of the cake, stating he/she is not allergic to any of the ingredients, you or someone present at the time must hold a valid certificate of training in first aid, and have a first aid kit handy


   
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(@pbeardmore)
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Never underesimate the power of good hospitality!!!

On a more serious point, I see that Commons Science and Tech Committee has three "committee specialists" who, I assume, are there to give tech input on topics. Does anyone know if there is any forensic experience amongst this team?

Dr Harry Beeson - Committee Specialist
Telephone 020 7219 1352
Email beesonh@parliament.uk

Seb Motala - Committee Specialist
Telephone 020 7219 3804
Email motalas@parliament.uk

Martin Smith - Committee Specialist
Telephone 020 7219 8367
Email smithmr@parliament.uk

"Committee Specialists form part of a small committee team, working on a range of inquiries within the committee’s subject area to support the scrutiny of government. This includes organising evidence, preparing briefing material, writing draft Committee reports and conducting analysis."


   
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jaclaz
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Does anyone know if there is any forensic experience amongst this team?

Dr Harry Beeson on LinkedIn
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/harry-beeson-769a20a7

Martin Smith on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-smith-b1b5b816/

No apparent trace in their experience of anything connected with forensics, besides their academical qualifications (in physics or mathematics) both seem like having a role of "scientific facilitators", rather than being specialists about any particular field.

No LinkedIn trace for Seb Motala that I could find, it sounds like a Swedish name ?

jaclaz


   
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No LinkedIn trace for Seb Motala that I could find, it sounds like a Swedish name

Not really. Though Motala is also the name of a Swedish city – perhaps that leads you astray.

Try Suhaib Motala.


   
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jaclaz
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No LinkedIn trace for Seb Motala that I could find, it sounds like a Swedish name

Not really. Though Motala is also the name of a Swedish city – perhaps that leads you astray.

Try Suhaib Motala.

Good ) , given my almost total ignorance of Swedish 😯 , I totally guessed that it could be some kind of toponymic surname
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toponymic_surname

then there he is
https://www.linkedin.com/in/suhaib-motala-50a11355/

He seems the only one with a computing background of some kind, still nothing seemingly connected with (digital) forensics.

jaclaz


   
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bshavers
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I'm still questioning the necessity to create a lab standard at all.

A digital forensics "lab" standard and/or accreditation is unreasonable as previously discussed. We should avoid attempts to create a standard for the sake of having a standard, when few will be able to comply.

It is the practitioner that matters to create standards in education, training, and experience.


   
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